i think the environment is tough, and the confidence is low, and when you have a tough environment and low confidence, i've been somewhat, i don't want to use the word depressed but become somewhat of a pessimist. the one thing sam has been is the giant optimist, the bottom of every market sam is buying stuff. and my problem, and then i had this epiphany and i said you know the problem is, if my assessment of the realities are such, everything is massively too expensive. in other words based on the fiscal cliff and all of the head winds the stock wins should be 9,000, not 14,000. the stock marked is getting bullied by qe7 or 8, whatever number it is so we're creating artificial numbers that i don't think the underline will support. >> if barack obama is reelected, would that put you in a state of you might be dprelsed a little bit longer probably, wouldn't you? >> well i just think it would be a continuation of how i am today. >> what do you think right now, are you, do you think he'll be reelected at this point? >> i'm not a political prognosticator. >> off camera you wouldn't say yes